Any members going to this demonstration?

[Bilderbooger]

News link

I think a first hand account from one of the UK members would be cool. So. Who's going?

[voltaire]

It's intended to be a peaceful demo, and (given its likely size) a far more representative one than the 200 Al-Muhajiroun loonies goose-stepping and ranting around London the other day.



V

[Bilderbooger]

Hi Volt.

From the article:

But they said they needed to "channel" growing anger felt by communities across Britain that Muslims were being persecuted and made to feel like "second class citizens".

Are Muslims being "persecuted" and made to feel like "second class citizens" in the UK, Voltaire? I'm getting a feeling of deja vu here. Just what the heck are you naughty Brits doing to your Muslims, Volty? Terrible things like providing food and shelter, I'd wager.

[voltaire]

No, the history of this isn't like that in the UK. Most UK Muslim citizens are descendents of, or in the case of the elderly, often actually are, people who were invited to the UK after the world wars to help rebuild the economy (or even prior to that during the Industrial Revolution). Many of those elderly were treated abysmally when they came.

And their kids, grandkids and great-grandkids (who form the bulk of today's UK Muslim South Asian/Arab/Turkish population) are as British as me. So they owe me nothing, because they are my fellow Britons. They have as much right to be here, grow up here, f*ck up, learn from the experience, and try to get along here, as I do

I guess what I'm saying is, It's not a case of me and mine "feeding and clothing" anyone. Although furthermore, people who come here fleeing war and seeking work, are also fine by me.



V

[Bilderbooger]

It just annoys me how groups like the "Muslim action Committee" always seem to portray Muslims as being mistreated in countries like the UK when they clearly are not.

[ElHenni]

Originally posted by Bilderbooger
Hi Volt.

From the article:

But they said they needed to "channel" growing anger felt by communities across Britain that Muslims were being persecuted and made to feel like "second class citizens".

Are Muslims being "persecuted" and made to feel like "second class citizens" in the UK, Voltaire? I'm getting a feeling of deja vu here. Just what the heck are you naughty Brits doing to your Muslims, Volty? Terrible things like providing food and shelter, I'd wager.

Muslims in the UK are not helpless peasants holding their hands out for money. As mentioned by V. they are as diverse and accomplished as Anglo Saxon Brits. There are incredibly wealthy and sucesseful Pakistanis and Arabs in the UK.

If you look at property and restaurants and clothing industries they are heavilly invested in by very rich Pakistanis and Arabs.

Muslims thrive in the UK, there are some who are poor but thats the same with any people.

What made me sick was when the Pakistani Earthquake happened the GB Government only gave 13 million pounds in donations to the relief effort yet I have individual Pakistani friends living in the UK who have paid more than 13 million in taxes alone.

[Bilderbooger]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ElHenni

Muslims in the UK are not helpless peasants holding their hands out for money. As mentioned by V. they are as diverse and accomplished as Anglo Saxon Brits. There are incredibly wealthy and sucesseful Pakistanis and Arabs in the UK.

Of course you (and V) are right on this. I should have left off that last sentence. So what are the folks at the MAC complaining about then? According to the article, they claim Muslims in the UK are "persecuted" and treated like "second class citisens". WTF?? Somebody's lying.