To Raphael

[Irishspark]

As you can see I went against my impish nature and removed 'it' from the board as you requested, BUT I'm going to use this thread as my ongoing discourse with you. You will be in Lebanon from August to September so alot will be in here when you get back.
You know there are many ways to break a heart. Stories are full of hearts broken by love, but what really breaks a heart is taking away its dream - Whatever that dream might be. No new door is opened without the inner urge for growth. Dreams guide us, encourage us, stretch us to new heights - and leave us empty, momentarily, when they are dashed. When a dreams serves us no longer, it is making way for an even better one.

While you are searching in Lebanon here are some tips;
A man must marry only a very pretty woman in case he should ever want someone to take her off his hands. (Sacha Guitry)
By all means marry; If you get a good wife, you'll be happy.
If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher. (Socrates)
and my all time favorite
Never go to bed mad. Stay up and fight. (Phyllis Diller)

[Irishspark]

algeria

escaping contamination
is a difficult
operation
i need some hibernation
hide me from the evil
protect me from the vultures

the men and the women
drink and make children
they need some hibernation
to hide them
from the evil
protect them from the vultures
guide me through the colours

spring it dies
summmer arrives
summer dies
autumn arrives
autumn dies
winter arrives
forever and ever
ever and ever

i need this hibernation
to stray with deviation
to gather some information
hide me from the evil
protect me from the vultures
guide me through the colours

spring it dies
summer arrives
summer dies
autumn arrives
autumn dies
winter arrives
forever and ever
ever and ever
ever and ever

[Irishspark]

and ran across a recipe and thought about you. It's in the recipe section.
My one cave-in to wealth is that I'm a sucker for an Armani suit, its the cut and how it looks on a man, pure sensual art...your friend Hamid speaks of things which has no lure for me...I'm Armani suits or good old jeans and such on weatherbeaten men, Linen, papyrus, khaki, into natural products and nature...yes, essentially a tent person. Sand in my hair and wind in my face, cup of java, solid wood, durability and timelessness, hand made and ethnic -Huge on that-I'm still trying to learn how to embroider tiny mirrors onto cushions...and have it look sumptious... I totally love Afghan fortresses....complete with handpainted doors, and mirrors they plaster into their mantels like the cushions they make....pottery making fascinates me...anything that smacks of self sufficiency..I think I inherited that streak but my father helped mold it deeper and one of my first memories is my grandparents teaching me how to make soap the old fashioned way. Can't say I ever overcame my fear of lye...their dont touch that it'll eat your....kinda stays with you...anyhow your recipe is in recipe section...enjoy!

[Edited by Irishspark on 30th July 2002 at 08:21]

[Tamy]

I am shocked beyond any thing, how can you give algerian bad names? You said you loved your mom very much & that she is berber, the berber I know are very nice and never think or utter such words . I understand your feeling and the way some do not believe in your love for Kanga. Of course some women are jealous there is nothing you can do about that...Why try to convience them ? We all know that s the real Kanga and we are all fans...but it is you who went too far by disclosing all information about her, her husband nationality & her where about...Do you think that is respect ? Is that love ? No my dear you have over steped the limits, all limits that is...now you are starting to fight with Kendra that is really too much, she is free to mix with who she wants and don t try to stir things up...we all came in here to be like a good friend &a big family look how things went ? Nikita also is somehow responsable by going along with you in this fight and by mixing everyone and everything and even breaking one golden rule that is TRUST ...the e.mail address she has put on in there for you we all know it is not yours but an innocent great lady who has nothing to do with all this and has never heard of this site!!! I regret ever having to come in here..! You said many things about Kanga even an affair with Lonelyarab. I have got news for you ..Kanga can sue you not only for stalking her, but for runing her reputation & telling lies about her...I don t know how you got all this ? Did you hire a detective ? After all it is nobody fault if Kanga is married a good wife & a mother...You said you respected mothers ? How can you ever say that ? She is in labour right now ...or maybe she has given birth, and you in here puting her name in the mud, causing her more embarrassement. I have a news for you if Kanga wasn t married she will be with Lonelyarab, Amar , or Nabil but never with you ! You said it yourself she is not into French !!! So get some good friends and not the silly ones who are not good for you. Even your papa should grow up and not go with you to Lebanon to continue your stalking of a married women with family kids & new baby!!! Did you think this is illegal and Kanga husband can lock you up ? You are causing too much damage for the whole family, you even found out about the poor parents in law summer house...Thats crazy and you scare me to death !!!

[Irishspark]

You are so tumultous and angry at women and don't just say it is Nikita and Electra and Gramma down the road...what happened to get you so upset? I want depth here no platitudes....who hurt you and don't say Kanga that would be a lie...you knew she was married...someone hurt you in your real life...and don't tell me tales...I have tons of male friends in my real life and I'll bet I've heard of every heartbreak that walks...you know what I think? Here are several things taken from what I observe in you and in my friends who you remind me of....
Case #1- His wife left him and married another man in Egypt. Why did she leave him? Because he treated her bad, he had a chip on his shoulder and one day she walked out of his life...he still loves her but she will never come back...he burnt his bridges with her...he is bitter - he is hurt - he is angry and sounds off at women like you do.
Case #2- He fooled around on his wife, she found out, she left him....he realized he was a total idiot, he tried to get her back...she moved to another country and won't take his phone calls.
Case #3- He was put in prison by his bad government and while he was in jail, the woman he loved, but whom he never told he loved, married her cousin....he will never marry that was 25 years ago...he is still single...hates women talks like you do. She never knew he cared.
Case #4- A man was engaged and very in love..he went to another country to get established she married his cousin while he was gone....he married my friend...he talked about his ex-fiance constantly, brought other women home and mistreated my friend...they are now divorced, she has a son, he never calls him, though the woman he loved left him and it is a sad story, but what he did to my friend in inexcusable also and he told her she was ugly because she doesn't look like his ex-fiance...he broke her heart, he said he loved her but he lied to her....she ended up in the hospital with a broken heart and a nervous breakdown and a little boy cries because his father never comes to see him....Western stories? No....these are all my friends, from the middle east...all different countries...I have more but We start with this for now.....


[Edited by Irishspark on 31st July 2002 at 07:18]

[Irishspark]

I'm afraid of what you might do to others, or yourself but me, not a chance...like I said you'd better run faster scared than I can mad...especially if you hurt someone else...you need someone to talk to big time and I'm here to talk to, but I will not tolerate you hurting Nikita, Kanga, Tamy, Electra or anyone else without saying something...you might feel ganged on but you are a big boy and you can dish it you can take it....or don't dish it. I am not against you Raphael, but I won't let you undo yourself and step into folly without trying to pull you out. You understand? You owe huge apologies...but I want them to be sincere, so you talk to me in here till we figure out what is wrong and then you decide what to do, apologize or whatever, but don't be fake, just be honest. OK? Speak your truth, but realize others have their truths too. PS Lonely Arab if you lurk out there in the night I invite you inside and its up to you and Raphael but I am willing to let the two of you talk this through without my interruption....you all decide what you want... but till you return...Raffie lets get this show and the road...when you are ready...OK?

[Irishspark]

If you are mad at me for all this you are free to say so here, if you are hurt say so, if you think I am wrong say so....feel free to say what you wish, but remember what I said, what you do unto to others will happen to you, so you are now responsible for Nikita's life....really you are...so in all this take a trip to the Mosque and talk to someone wiser and older than you really talk....I'd prefer you do that first. If you are not Muslim and I just remember you telling Kanga you'd convert for her, then you go to whatever spiritual advisor you have now...go...and pour out your soul...you will feel alot better. Believe me.