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    English Explanation: Throughout several city in Morocco, imams from the top of their mosqs preach that Amazigh(Berber), natives' language is against Islam to fight Imazighen(berbers) based on the 6 principl of Islamic law. In other words, you have to relinquish your identity to be Moslim. It is against Islam to practice one's language !


    French:Maroc : les islamistes à l'assaut de tamazight
    Maroc : Les islamistes à l’assaut de Tamazight
    Cela se passe dans les mosquées, de plus en plus squattées par les imams de la mouvance islamiste à El-Hoceima, à Ifrane, à Ben Tayeb, à Imzouren…Du haut des minarets, notamment à l’occasion des prêches du vendredi, les attaques d’une grande virulence sont portées à l’encontre des imazighen et des militants de la cause amazighe, qualifiés de « mouvement sioniste et colonialiste ». Les imams racistes clament tout simplement que « tamazight est contraire aux préceptes de l’islam » et demandent aux marocains et marocaines de ne s’attacher qu’à la seule arabité, érigée en « 6ème fondement de l’islam ».

    This I witnessed on campus in ALgeria 20 years ago, 10 years after I departed, 100s of journalists and and non-Islamic intellectuals were simply cleansed with their blood.



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    Dear Jugurten,

    Islam is against everything.

    It's never late to know that.



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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by mgsheet
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    Dear Jugurten,

    Islam is against everything.

    It's never late to know that.



    Salam???
    this is the first thing we say for the friend or the people we meet...... which means the peace (paix), so i think that u've got some wrong ideas about islam, but right now everything is available in the world the Holy Quran, the Bible and etc.. so u can diffirentiate the lightness from the darkness.
    hope u read it patiently.

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    eyad

    What do you say in defense of these clerics or simply animals preaching with mastery of "islamic rules and fundaments" violence (emotional, intellectual and physical) against those just want to be self in their X-thousands of years history ? Does that mean mosq Islam should separated from private Islam ? or simply that mosqs' islam is not islam ?

    Please help me understand this, because I am Algerian, Chaoui (Amazigh), cognisant of Tamazight, Arabic, French and practical English and Italian. Other religious establishments invest time and money in helping Imazighen bring to the light of Science(Tamazight) as it was done with all languages starting with English, Latin, Greek, and go on... You take Africa for granted ? or is it just a hogra? Please ENLIGHTEN ME !

    Take care.

    Tim

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    Hi
    I don't get what you are really asking are you trying to say you do not know the difference in peoples opinions towered Islam. Some of them whom I do think the misunderstand Islamic rules are the ones who are making all of these problems between different Algerians

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    Guys guys listen,

    Let me make this clear so you all understand.

    First of all, no french newspaper or Jugurten can come tell us what islam is.

    Islam is not followed by people who speak a certain language. Islam is followed by people who speak french, english, arabic, amazighi, chinese....etc etc

    However, Islam was brought down in Arabic therefore muslims must know certain words, verses, sayings...etc in arabic. For example, when people pray they read the verses in arabic.

    Islam is clear Timgad, if you want to learn about it, dont go reading a newspaper or listening to people's different opinions, rather, you should search the facts and read the authentic sources.

    I am also aware there are many people out there who claim to be muslims and spread lies and misconceptions about Islam. So, of course those need to be ignored and it would be idiotic for someone to listen to these people.

    There are also clerics even Imams out there who show something totally different from what Islam teaches... maybe if you carry out some research and learn for yourself you will realised whats true and what isnt. Again I repeat, Islam is clear, Islam is from the Quran and from the Hadeeth and what the Ulama say with regards to Fiqh... lets know our sources first.

    One more thing, the majority of Amazigh people are muslims, they followed Islam for many centuries without any problems whatsoever.

    Khokom.

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    no offence but you are WRONG!

    We fought against the Arab! and there invasion! North Africa had tribes (Numid) who were believing in different religions (christians, jews, etc...) the arab conquer North africa and started to install the religion with the so called "Marabout" who were placed in every village to teach Islam. Kahyina was one of the princess who fought against the Arab! please check your source before adding arguments that aren't right!

    The Amazirgh fought as much as they could against every invaders thoughout time, Romans, Arabs, Turcs, French... it's all a matter of pride and the results is that no one has forgotten who we are, and what our language is!
    WE ARE NOT FOR SOLD AT ANY PRICE!!! nor Religion, people, or anyone will change who we are!




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