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You are sadly mistaken. I, and anyone else ARE allowed to criticise what you call religion, and I call superstition. If Islam were so perfect, it would easily be able to withstand the criticism.
'islam tells men to do it with children' that is not what I wrote and you know it. You are one of those devious people who tries to twist other people's words. Your line of argument will never be regarded as reasoned debate by intelligent adults, so I suggest you stop wasting your effort on this, and insulting my intelligence, by expecting me to fall for that old chestnut.
With regard to 'Islamic and Moslem' countries, if what you say is true, then why do you constantly keep mentioning Islam in your posts? Algeria, by your definition is not an Islamic country.
'Yes I am in the UK and this is my country and I have every single right a british citizen has. I live nice and comfortable' - so what do you think has made the UK so comfortable for you? Is it perhaps because we are a tolerant people who welcome diversity? So why are you expecting tolerance from us Brits yet so intolerant of anyone who disagrees with your religious morals? Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If we Brits were to be as intolerant as some of the views expressed in this forum, you wouldn't feel quite so comfortable in the UK would you?
'just DONT blame Islam and offend all of us here' - one of the aspects of emotional immaturity is to take everything so terribly PERSONALLY. You need to learn to debate objectively, like an adult if you really want to be treated like one. You too need to grow up. You're not as mature as you flatter yourself that you are.
I don't 'blame' Islam or any other religion on anyone. I analyse the realities objectively, and then deal with them. As previously stated, most conflicts are over rights and resources, not religions. When most people are content with their 'lot' in life, they don't try to convert everyone to their superstitions. It is the ones with personality disorders who try to impose their intolerant bigotry on others. My presence here is raise awareness of the alternatives, not to impose my views on others. Your censorship of anyone whom you deem to be offensive is just typical of the behaviour of a dictator. The only thing stopping you, is that you are only running a small portion of a virtual country. Thankfully you're not running a whole real one.
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7th July 2004 16:16 #29
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7th July 2004 16:35 #30
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Unfortunately PD, your disagreements are prompted by some kind of egotistical desire to get personal.
And the cause of this type of disagreement is totally blameworthy, because it holds back all concern for the truth.
If your intentions are sincere, then OUR differences of opinion could bring about a greater awareness of all the various possible aspects on these posts. And we could therefore open a variety of hypotheses in tackling specific issues.
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7th July 2004 16:43 #31
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Salaam. I want to point out that your example of men having sex with other men while in prison (same as for women in prison)indeed does occur...quite public knowledge. However, this does not make it right to have homosexual intercourse because a person is in a confined space. You mentioned that Algerian men (in Algeria) since they can't have sexual relationships with women outside of marriage are resorting to homosexual activity. Although I'm sure there are cases, but are you that naive to think that some of these males aren't with widows and/or divorced women??? Also, sexual activity occurs with unmarried girls/women as well.
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7th July 2004 16:51 #32
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Making it right?
You are the ones forcing your views of 'right' and 'wrong' according to your superstitions and culture. If you were debating this objectively you wouldn't need to use superstitious dogma as your justification.
If you think you are so 'right' then why don't you go to live in 'Islamic' countries, instead of trying to enforce your intolerance and bigotry in the UK?
The real reason you don't live there is because it is COMFORTABLE in the UK. You fail to ask yourself the question 'why is the UK so comfortable'? I will answer it for you, the reason why, is precisely because we have the tolerance that your superstitions and culture so lacks.
Whilst we're on the subject of intolerance, may I remind you that the British culture was the reason we defended ourselves against the Germans in World War II. Our tolerance for diversity and irreverent disposition / sense of humour, that you so seem to despise as 'Godless' is what saved us. Without wishing to rub anyone's nose in it, if the Germans had won the war, they would have wiped out the Jews, and being Semites, you would have been next on the list for genocide also. Think yourselves lucky we Brits are the way we are, because if we weren't, the chances are, you wouldn't be here to debate the subject of intolerance and bigotry. Just remember that. Maybe we're not so bad after all.
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7th July 2004 17:17 #33
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I no longer live in the U.K. but must agree with you that diversity is highly respected and protected under British law. In everyday interaction, British ppl (especially in London) are more accepting of differences than what is experienced in other European countries, or the U.S.However, what country is "Islamic"? There is not one country on this earth that nowadays can be classified as Islamic...just a bunch of corrupt nations. I'm sure that if many people had an opportunity between a fair, REALLY Islamic, well runned nation...as apposed to a "Western" one...many would run to the first.
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7th July 2004 17:31 #34
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Bushra - are you daring to say that Saudi is not really an Islamic country?
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7th July 2004 19:10 #35Admin1 Guest
You know, PD....
...no matter what the subject matter is, and no matter the caveat requesting "no religion", you manage to contort it so that you can continue your rant against Islam and Muslims.
Frankly, I am tired of you, and from my e-mails, the membership is tired of you as well.
You need a pulpit, a great, big, monstrous pulpit from where you can preach the hellfire and damnation to which you have been spoon feeing these members. Please go and find that pulpit because it is NOT here at algeria.com.
And I would remind you that VCI does NOT build these forums so that bigots such as yourself can come here and spew their venom about the "host country." You don't like Islam, fine. You don't like Muslims, fine too. I dare say, they don't like you either and with damned good reason.
Now, take your bigotry and go find a discussion forum where you are less likely to cause such rancor. And BTW: I don't know, nor do I care, what religion you are, but I would suggest you might try and find one because your level of hate can reach mammoth proportions and we all know THAT kind of hate leads to disease.




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