clarification.

[wisdom_seeker]

Originally posted by wisdom_seeker

hadiths! hadiths! I dont like them at all !!! but somehow they are a holy book ? men are smarter than women ? how ignorant is that !? and when you guys ask me which muslim men i know what do they say.. well heres a perfect example.!! he thinks hes smarter than me (a woman) just because the hadith says so... AND he says that if i dont believe in it too.. then i dont believe in God.. well doesnt that just summarize my concerns perfectly.!!

"Originally posted by Khokom

No it doesnt summarize anything. Did you ask for proof before you go and belief it? Cool, so I can come to you and tell you that the earth is square you would record that in too? By the way, it really is."

Poor Columbus.

"Islamic sources are made up of The Quran, The Hadith and then rulings from the most knowledgeable Scholars. "

Yes i knew this.

"Where does it say in the Hadith that men are smarter than women? Go ahead, is this guys who just told you your evidence? Proove to me that men are smarter. How can this be, when a HUGE portion of the Hadith itself was narated by Ayesha (ra) who was the wife of the prophet pbuh. At an age of 19, she was a scholar, THE WHOLE MUSLIM NATION, 1.5+ BILLION PEOPLE FOLLOW WHAT SHE NARATED. And you telling me, you believe Islam says men are superior or smarter than women,... whatever."

You behave like i believe him !! On the contrary !! I think its the most stupidest thing Ive ever heard !!

"Please, one simple advice, read about our religion from the sources, so at least when you come and argue about our religion, you have the proof to back it up, otherwise you are again, talking in thin air.

Khokom."

I have advice for you too Khokom. Take the time to read carefully.. i will do the same.
You talk to me like as if im a man !

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hadiths! hadiths! I dont like them at all !!!

I dont have to like them.. and i dont. Enough people have quoted the Hadiths in here. So although I did not get the proof of the pudding with this "brain topic".. I have already decided i dont like it according to other information given to me.

but somehow they are a holy book ?

The Hadiths are written by humans... and i have a problem with humans and what they think God is. It is part of your religion right.. ? the haddiths ? okay then.. so it is a holy book.

men are smarter than women ? how ignorant is that !?

Yes..i think it was very ignorant of kass___ to say that! Dont you think it was ignorant??

and when you guys ask me which muslim men i know what do they say.. well heres a perfect example.!!

Many people have pointed out that i dont know enough muslims to have anything to say about them... ah heck..
I am also the person that said you all should get on the same page for there to be more unity among the islam faith.

he thinks hes smarter than me (a woman) just because the hadith says so... AND he says that if i dont believe in it too.. then i dont believe in God..

Do you know who "he" refers to? kass___.
He believes the Hadith says that ! Thats a concern isnt it ??

well doesnt that just summarize my concerns perfectly.!!

And it does summarize my concerns exactly... how would you know what my concerns are ? They are mine to summarize.. not yours.
and all my concerns basically fall into one big basket..
Men who have altered the word of God to serve them.

[wisdom_seeker]

One other question :

What does a muslim woman have to do to convert to another religion?

[Amina-DZ]

wisdom_seeker, what's your question in the first post?

[wisdom_seeker]

Originally posted by Amina-DZ
wisdom_seeker, what's your question in the first post?

Not a question.. feedback for Khokom.

[TheTruth]

Salam
A question
What about Quran?

[wisdom_seeker]

Originally posted by TheTruth
Salam
A question
What about Quran?

Absolutely..!
What does the Quran say concering a muslim woman who wants to convert to another religion?
What are the steps?

and I want it from the Quran.. not any Hadith.. if at all possible.

Thanks

[kassawess]

Ok to all the women in this forum I apologize for my misinterpretation of the prophet saying ( I hope God will forgive me).
The hadith turns out to mean that women tend to be weaker in using their minds (well which weesdom seeker won`t agree with anyways ). Even this I dont have concrete scientific proof, but as a muslim I will believe in it the same way as I belive in God (although you can get few examples such ClioPathra of Egypt,All the sensitivity thing that sometimes weesdom seeker insists to be talked to as a woman,....anyways women are different from men I wouldnt be surprised if any thing was discovered).

P.s Weesdom seeker did you think we expect you to like Hadith? I am starting to question the integrity of your mind now