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    It seems to us very important to denounce false notions that aim to suffocate "the spirit of Jihad" in our OUMMA.It is the idea of JIHAD AKBAR and jihad asghar.according to this belief, the great jihad is jihad ennafs/akbar(the ego) opposite jihad in battle field/asghar.

    To classify these two sorts of jihad, these people refer to the story mentioned by AL KHATIB EL BAGHDADI in his book,"HISTORY OF BAGDAD",transmitted by YAHIA IBN AL Ala,who said:"LAYTH told us, according to Ata,to Abu rabah,to jabir,that the prohpet (pbuh) coming back from battles said="we come back safe and sound,we return from jihad asghar to jihad akbar.the folows ask:O prophet what jihad can be greater than we just accomplished? He(pbuh) answered:the jihad (strive, struggle) against the own desires" (tarikh el baghdadi 13/49)

    FIRST:
    this hadith is not a legal proof cause it is daiif(weak) if not false.Al Iraqy said in Takhriju ahadithil Ihya that El bayhaqi has also mentioned this hadith of jabir as one with isnad da`if (risalat jihad hassan el banna)
    Al souyouti has also commented this hadith is WEAK(da´if) in his book "Al jamai Al saghir"
    this hadith is also daif in "sanad"cause of his narrator khalaf bin mohammed bin isamail el kahayam , that makes AL HAKIM (rahimallah) say:"this hadith is incertain"
    Abou Ya ala about this narrator(khalaf): "he often make mistakes and not reliable" (Mashariul ashwaq ila Masuril Usahaq 1/131)
    Alhakim and ibn abi Zurah say about this narrator(khalf) we do not take resposiblities what he say.(Mizanul Itidal 1/662)


    Ibn hajar Al asqalani said in his Al-taqrib:" he( the narrator) was accused to forge hadiths"
    In Al Mizan of the Imam EL DHAHABI,we find:
    Amru bin Ali,an nasai and el Al Daraqutni the said="this hadith has to be rejected" Abu Hatim said:"He is not a good narrator"

    IMAM AHMED IBN HANBAL confirms :" He is a liar and hadith fabricator"

    Ibn Adi said="This hadith is false" (Tahdhibut Tahdhib 11/261-262)

    the same meaning share it IBNOU TAYMIYAH (rahimahoullah)who says:

    "there is a Hadith linked to a group of people declaring the the prophet(pbuh) said after the battle of Tabouk:We are back from small jihad to jihad akbar",ibn taymiya said : this hadith has no source( LA ASLA LAH)none of islamic scince has mentioned it.

    The jihad against the NON believers is the most noble action and the most important to humanity"
    (Al furqan baina Auliyar rahman wa auliyaisy shaytan, pg44-45)

    Ibrahim ibn abi ablah is thought said="you come back from jihad asghar to jihad ul qalbi(heart)"
    syaru al aamin nubala(6/325)
    Daruqutni said Ibn abla is realiable but the chain to this hadith is broken.siyaru nubal/6/324

    CONCLUSION=
    " the hadith above is INVENTED and is the ONLY argument these people say.


    ......../to be continued

    [Edited by maghnia on 31st December 2005 at 22:22]
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    Hadiths On The Jihad Against The Ego

    The hadith master Mulla `Ali al-Qari relates in his book al-Mawdu`at al-kubra, also known as al-Asrar al-marfu`a :

    Suyuti said: al-Khatib al-Baghdadi relates in his "History" on the authority of Jabir: The Prophet came back from one of his campaigns saying: "You have come forth in the best way of coming forth: you have come from the smaller jihad to the geater jihad." They said: "And what is the greater jihad?" He replied: "The striving (mujahadat) of Allah's servants against their idle desires."

    Ibn Hajar al-`Asqalani said in Tasdid al-qaws : "This saying is widespread and it is a saying by Ibrahim ibn Ablah according to Nisa'i in al-Kuna. Ghazali mentions it in the Ihya' and al-`Iraqi said that Bayhaqi related it on the authority of Jabir and said: There is weakness in its chain of transmission."

    `Ali al-Qari, al-Asrar al-marfu`a (Beirut 1985 ed.) p. 127.

    The hafiz Ibn Abu Jamra al-Azdi al-Andalusi (d. 695) says in his commentary on Bukhari entitled Bahjat al-nufus :

    `Umar narrated that a man came to the Prophet asking for permission to go to jihad. The Prophet asked: "Are your parents alive?" He said that they were. The Prophet replied: "Then struggle to keep their rights" (fihima fa jahid) ... There is in this hadith evidence that the Sunna for entering the path and undertaking self-discipline is to act under the expert guidance, so that he may be shown the way that is best for him to follow, and the soundest for the particular wayfarer. For when that Companion wished to go out to jihad, he did not content himself with his own opinion in the matter but sought advice from one more knowledgeable than him and more expert. If this is the case in the Lesser Jihad, then what about the Greater Jihad?

    Ibn Abu Jamra, Bahjat al-nufus sharh mukhtasar sahih al-bukhari 3:146. Ibn Hibban relates in his Sahih from Fadala ibn Ubayd:

    The Prophet said in the Farewell Pilgrimage: "... The mujahid is he who makes jihad against himself (jahada nafsah) for the sake of obeying Allah." Tirmidhi, Ahmad, Tabarani, Ibn Majah, al-Hakim, and Quda`i also relate it. The contemporary hadith scholar Shu`ayb al-Arna'ut confirmed that its chain of transmission is sound in his edition of Ibn Hibban, Sahih 11:203 (#4862). Al-Haythami related the following version in the chapter on Jihad al-nafs in his Majma` al-zawa'id and declared it sound:

    The strong one is not the one who overcomes people, the strong one is he who overcomes his ego (ghalaba nafsah)

    The above is taken from an article by Muhammad Hisham Kabbani, his profile is as follows,

    (its seems that I was missunderstood on earlier points I mentioned and I thus appologise for that missunderstanding and will use quotes of acceped scholars so as to not cause anymore confusion, Allahu 3lam)

    Muhammad Hisham Kabbani is the chairman of the Islamic Supreme Council of America, a religious organization founded in 1997 with offices in Washington, D.C., and Michigan. A scholar and Sufi sheikh of the Naqshbandi order, he was born in 1945 in Beirut, Lebanon. He received an undergraduate degree from the American University of Beirut in chemistry, studied medicine at the University of Louvain in Belgium, and earned a degree in Islamic law from Damascus University. In 1991, he moved to the United States to establish traditional Islamic teaching and the Naqshbandi Sufi order, opening Islamic centers, founding a humanitarian aid organization, and engaging in interreligious dialogue. Sheikh Kabbani lives in California and the Midwest. The Middle East Quarterly interviewed him in Washington, D.C., in July, 1999, and conducted follow-up discussions with him in March, 2000.

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    1. The mujahid is he who makes jihad against his nafs (ego) for the sake of obeying Allah.

    - Ibn Hibban (#1624, 2519): Authentic;

    - Shu`ayb al-Arna'ut (Commentary on Ibn Hibban): authentic;

    - al-Hakim: sahih;

    - `Iraqi confirms him;

    - it is also in Tirmidhi, Ahmad, and Tabarani;

    - Albani included it in the "Sahiha".

    2. "`A'isha, Allah be well-pleased with her, asked: 'Messenger of Allah, we see jihad as the best of deeds, so shouldn't we join it?' He replied, 'But the best jihad is a perfect Hajj (pilgrimage to Makkah).'" (Sahih Al-Bukhari #2784)

    3. On another occasion, a man asked: "Should I join the jihad?" The Prophet asked, upon him peace, "Do you have parents?" The man said yes. The Prophet said: "Then do jihad by serving them!" (Sahih Al-Bukhari #5972)

    4. Another man asked: "What kind of jihad is better?" The Prophet replied, upon him peace: "A word of truth spoken in front of an oppressive ruler." (Sunan Al-Nasa'i #4209)

    5. The Prophet also said, upon him peace: The strong one is not the one who overcomes people, the strong one is he who overcomes his nafs [ego]. Al-Haythami declared it authentic in Majma` al-Zawa'id.

    6. The Prophet, upon him peace, said to Abu Sa`id al-Khudri: "Even if one strikes unbelievers and idolaters with his sword until it breaks, and he is *completely* dyed with their blood, the Rememberers of Allah are above him one degree."

    The above authentic hadiths provide additional explicit evidence - especially 1 and 5 - refuting the lie that "all the evidence for jihad al-nafs is fabricated or weak."

    This taken from Shaykh Gibril Haddad

    Dr Gibril Haddad was born in Beirut in 1380/1960. He embraced Islam while a graduate student in French Literature at Columbia University in New York. He lives in Damascus, Syria. Since 1997 he has translated and published over 25 books and various Islamic subjects and currently lecures in Damascus and online.

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    SECOND:

    in addition this hadith is weak(if not false):this hadith contradicts explicitly the Kuran.the kuran which calls the jihad against the kufar as best after belief.

    Abdellah youssuf assam in his rissala said even to vist and to take care for the holy mosque(Massjid el harem is not to compare to jihad fi sabilllah. it is also stated in SAHIH moslem the reason of revelation of verses 19to 22 SOURAT ETTAWBA:"


    this came because of the dispute between prophet friends who thought to visit el massjid el haram , give water to pilgrates, take care of the mosque was a jihad, these verses are DEFINTIVELY the answer that the jihad is better.

    The Kuran confirms that jihad ennafs does never equal jihad the kufar:
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    Sourat AN -nissa 4:95-96"
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    Allah Most High said:

    {And whosoever STRIVES (JAAHADA), STRIVES (YUJAAHIDU) only for himself} (29:6). {As for those who STRIVE (JAHADU) in Us (the cause of Allah), We surely guide them to Our paths, and lo! Allah is with the good doers.} (29:69) This is a Meccan Sura and the two verses refer to Jihad al-Nafs. There was no military jihad then.

    Without jihad of the nafs, fighting leads to Hellfire.

    Allah Most High said:

    {WA NAFSIN WA MAA SAWAAHA, FA-ALHAMAHA FUJURAHA WA TAQWAHA. QAD AFLAHA MAN ZAKAAHA WA QAD KHAABA MAN DAS-SAAHA}

    "By the nafs and the proportion and order given to it, and its inspiration as to its wrong and its right; Truly he succeeds who purifies it, and he fails that corrupts it" (91:7-10). This is also a Meccan Sura.

    Without purification, the nafs remains a "soul that enjoins evil" (al-nafs al - ammara bil-su') until it surrenders itself in total obedience to the call of animal passions and shaytan.

    Allah Most High said:

    {Have you seen the one who chooses for his god his own lust?} (25:43). {He followed his own lust. Therefore his likeness is as the likeness of a dog; if you attack him he pants with his tongue out and if you leave him he pants with his tongue out} (7:176). These are both also Meccan Suras.

    About the person who controlled the passion of his ego Allah says: {But as for him who feared to stand before his Lord and restrained his soul from lust, Lo! The garden will be his home} (79:40-41). This is also a Meccan Sura.

    The above are among the many Meccan verses and Suras enjoining jihad al-nafs. One that denies that there was/is such a Divine command commits a grievous act. Such a command cannot mean military jihad, as there was no permission - much less an order - for such a jihad until the Madinan period.

    This taken from Shaykh Gibril Haddad

    Dr Gibril Haddad was born in Beirut in 1380/1960. He embraced Islam while a graduate student in French Literature at Columbia University in New York. He lives in Damascus, Syria. Since 1997 he has translated and published over 25 books and various Islamic subjects and currently lecures in Damascus and online.

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    WHAT IS STRONG PROOF HADITH(Da íf or THE HOLY KURAN?


    THE HOLY KURAN ( kalam ellah is the proof)

    with Kuran there is no ichtihad,
    Fikh basis( LA ICHTIHADA MAA ENNASS)

    i hope you understand Arabic? or not?

    ######### The proof from the kuran about jihad #####

    Surat Ennisaa ( WOMEN) verses 95/96

    "Not equal are those believers who sit ,except those who are disabled,and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons.Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit(at home).
    Unto all(in faith) hath Allah promised good:But those who strive and fight hath He distinguished above those who sit(at home)by a great reward,-
    Ranks specially bestowed buy Him and forgiveness and Mercy. For Allah ist oft -forgiving, Most merciful"

    sadaqa allah al adim
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    I recall readin a long research about this Hadeeth saying it's weak. But overall I think its meaning is correct. The whole idea is that Jihad Al Kurf won't come if you cannot win the fight against the bad part into ourselves.
    I do beleive that fighting sick ideas such as shirk and what turning around is more important than going to the battles. I beleive as well that nowdays fighting is useless in most cases because in almost places inthe world you can live as Muslim and do Daawa to Islam without being bugged as I hear people speaking.

    The above was written by Lazzhar and I agree, 100%

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