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    Giovanni is offline Member
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    Christians in General see God as the following

    1) God the Father(In Islam Allah)
    2)God the Son Jesus Christ (in Islam as Isa)
    3) God the holy Spirit(in Islam the holy spirit also known as Angel Gabriel)

    Each person in the Trinity is God. All are qual. Its is not 3 gods, but rather GOD manifesting himself as 3 beings.
    Allah is the ARAB name For God. therfore I accept the title or name Allah to define God. Muslims Christians and Jews all worship GOD. However, christians accept him as the trinity(God manifesting himself as 3 beings, but he is the same GOD....the GOD of ISRAEL,thE GOD OF CHRISTIANS and the GOD of ISLAM.

    This concept is very difficult to grasp, especially for none Christians. I hope i was able to shed some light on the mater

    I WORSHIP GOD. WETHER YOU CALL THE ALMIGHTY : GOD, ALLAH, JEHOVAH, YAWEH,EL SHADAI,. ADONAI, ELOHIM is irrelevent. IT IS HE SAME GOD


    PRAISE BE TO GOD THE ALMIGHTY, WHOM I WORSHIP AND SUBMIT TO FULLY AND BLINDLY.
    THERE IS NO GOD BUT GOD.


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    KI
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    Giovanni,

    Allah is the creator of Issa and archangel Gabriel. Allah is One and is not part of a trinity as you are trying to suggest.
    Issa, the son of chaste Mary, is a messenger of Allah to bring glad tiding to the people of Israel to go back to the right path.
    Archangel Gabriel if the messanger between Allah and his messengers.
    We muslims do worship Allah the creator who is not part of his creation and NOTHING/NO ONE equates to Him.
    I have a question for you; on the day of judgemnt where each one of three would be? answer this question and we can build on it.

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    ANSWER TO QUESTION on day of Judgement and ANTICHRIST

    On the day of judgement,Christ(who is God) will judge the "good" people and the "bad" people. All will have to bow to Christ and acknowlege him as the son of GOD.
    According to the bible 144000 people will be SPECIALLY CHOSEN. Thses 144000 people will be the "special" people who have dedicated their lives to worship God alone WITHOUT THE INFLUENCE OF MAN MADE LAWS and who are the eleat(religiously,faith etc,,,) Theses will go to heaven. You may ask...what about the rst of the world?
    The rest of the people of the earth who were good, will live on a heavenly earth.
    Before then however, certain events must take place.
    1)antichrist must rule the earth for 42 months....then Christ will destroy him(it)
    2) the antichrist will force every one to worship a "false god". The people of the earth will have to wear the name of the beast whos numerical value is 666. Anyone who doesn not have this mark cannot buy or sell anything and will be killed.THOSE WHO ARE LOYAL TO GOD WILL NOT TAKE THE 666.
    NOTE:If you take the mark of the beast it is automatically hell
    3)The temple of SOLOMON will have to be rebuilt.Why? It will be the throne of Jesus Christ for 1000years as the King of the Jews(the chosen people)
    NOte: Israel is now collecting funds to rebuild the TEMPLE...this means the DOME ROCK will eventually be destroyed.(according to certain biblical scolars)

    HERE ARE THE BIBLICAL QUOTATIONS..

    THe antichrist(beast...42months)

    Revelation 13:5
    There was given to him a mouth speaking arrogant words and blasphemies, and authority to act for forty-two months was given to him.

    The 666

    Revelation 13:16
    And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead,

    Revelation 13:17
    and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

    Revelation 13:18
    Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.

    THE 144000 people

    Revelation 14:1
    Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.

    Revelation 14:2
    And I heard a voice from heaven, like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, and the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps.

    Revelation 14:3
    And they *sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth.

    Revelation 14:4
    These are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they have kept themselves chaste. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb.

    Revelation 14:5
    And no lie was found in their mouth; they are blameless.

    The 1000 years

    Revelation 20:1
    Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand.

    Revelation 20:2
    And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;

    Revelation 20:3
    and he threw him into the abyss, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time.

    Revelation 20:4
    Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

    Revelation 20:6
    Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

    The NEW JERUSALEM

    Revelation 21:2
    And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.

    Revelation 21:3
    And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them,

    TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THE FINAL JUDGEMENT



    Revelation 20:11
    Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them.

    Revelation 20:12
    And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.

    Revelation 20:13
    And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds.

    Revelation 20:14
    Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.

    Revelation 20:15
    And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire


    NOTICE...the MAHDI is not mentioned....CHRIST IS THE MESSIAH.....HE IS THE SON OF GOD....HE IS GOD....HE DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD.

    CHRIST HAS DIED
    CHRIST IS RISEN
    CHRIST WILL COME AGAIN.

    PRAISE BE TO CHRIST MY LORD AND SAVIOR.AMEN

    I DONT KNOW IF THIS ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.....IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS PLEASE POST SOME MORE QUESTIONS...ILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.





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    Re: ANSWER TO QUESTION on day of Judgement and ANTICHRIST

    To : KI
    I want to make a little correction for Giovanni's interpretation (I am sorry my brother Gio).
    God the Father : The Almightiness Power of God
    God the Son : The Words of God
    God the Holy Spirit : The Spirit (Soul) of God
    Then, there are no "three" things but one thing
    If we make a "parallel similarity" may be it will be :
    God the Father : Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
    God the Son : Qalamullah or Qalam Qodim
    God the Holy Spirit : Ruhul Quddus (the "soul" of God)
    (Ruhul Quddus interpreted as Jibril just only by "jumhur mufassirin" or "expert interpreter", not in the arabic text)

    Praise to God the Most Benevolent and the Most Merciful
    Who createth human being in thousands races and tribes
    Who give His Words in many revelations which makes religions
    For He made us in nations and tribes to know each others
    Not for fight each others but for friendship and brotherhood

    may peace always be with you

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    KI
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    Talking

    Gio, Qu,

    ALLAH, GOD is one.
    On the day of judgement where each one of the trio be?

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    Nonson Guest

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    Impotent grey matter, what.

    We still await the promised explanation of how Christians understand God. Please, do sate our profound interest in this subject.

    Nonson
    05.09.01

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    Cleopatra is offline Senior Member
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    Originally posted by KI
    Gio, Qu,

    ALLAH, GOD is one.
    On the day of judgement where each one of the trio be?
    GOOD POINT KI!!!

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