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    CHICAGO: Laleh Bakhtiar had already spent two years working on an English translation of the Qur'an when she came upon Chapter 4, Verse 34.

    She nearly dropped the project right then.

    The hotly debated verse states that a rebellious woman should first be admonished, then abandoned in bed and ultimately "beaten" - the most common translation for the Arabic word "daraba" - unless her behavior improves.

    "I decided it either has to have a different meaning, or I can't keep translating," said Bakhtiar, an Iranian-American who adopted her father's Islamic faith as an adult and had not dwelled on the verse before. "I couldn't believe that God would sanction harming another human being except in war."

    Bakhtiar worked for five more years, with the translation, which is to be published in April. But while she found a way through the problem, few verses in the Qur'an have generated as much debate, particularly as more Muslim women study their faith as an academic field.

    "This verse became an issue of debate and controversy because of the ethics of the modern age, the universal notions of human rights," said Khaled Abou El Fadl, an Egyptian-born law professor and Islamic scholar at the University of California, Los Angeles.

    The leader of the North American branch of a mystical Islamic order, Sheik Muhammad Hisham Kabbani, said he had been questioned about the verse in places around the world where women were struggling for greater rights, but most of all by Westerners.

    Women want to be free "from some of the extreme ideology of some Muslims," Kabbani said, after delivering a sermon on the verse recently in Oakland, California.

    In Germany last week, a judge citing the verse caused a public outcry after she rejected the request for a fast-track divorce by a Moroccan-German woman because her husband beat her. The judge, who was removed from the case, wrote that the Qur'an sanctioned physical abuse.

    There are at least 20 English translations of the Qur'an.

    Daraba has been translated as beat, hit, strike, scourge, chastise, flog, make an example of, spank, pet, tap and even seduce.

    "Spank?" exclaimed Fadl, who has concluded that the verse refers to a rare public legal procedure that ended before the 10th century. "That is really kinky. That is the author fantasizing too much."

    Bakhtiar, who is 68 and has a doctorate in educational psychology, set out to translate the Qur'an because she found the existing versions inaccessible by Westerners. Many Jewish and Christian names, for example, have been Arabized, so Moses and Jesus appear in the English version of the Qur'an as Musa and Issa.

    When she reached the problematic verse, Bakhtiar spent the next three months on daraba. She does not speak Arabic, but she learned to read the holy texts in Arabic while studying and working as a translator in the Islamic Republic of Iran in the 1970s and '80s.

    Her eureka moment came on roughly her 10th reading of Edward William Lane's Arabic-English Lexicon, a 3,064-page volume from the 19th century, she said. Among the six pages of definitions for daraba was "to go away."

    "I said to myself, 'Oh, God, that is what the prophet meant,' " said Bakhtiar, speaking in the offices of Kazi Publications in Chicago, a mail-order house that is publishing her translation.

    "When the prophet had difficulty with his wives, what did he do? He didn't beat anybody, so why would any Muslim do what the prophet did not?"

    She thinks the "beat" translation contradicts another verse, which states that if a woman wants a divorce, she should not be mistreated. Given the option of staying in the marriage and being beaten, or divorcing, women would obviously leave, she said.

    There have been similar interpretations, but none have been incorporated into a translation. Debates over translations of the Qur'an - considered God's eternal words - revolve around religious tradition and Arabic grammar. Critics fault Bakhtiar on both scores.

    Bakhtiar expected opposition, not least because she is not an Islamic scholar. Men in the Muslim world, she said, will also oppose the idea of an American, especially a woman, reinterpreting the prevailing translation.

    "They feel the onslaught of the West against their religious values, and they fear losing their whole suit of armor," she said. "But women need to know that there is an alternative."

    Religious scholars outline several main threads in the translation of daraba. Conservative scholars suggest the verse has to be taken at face value, with important reservations. They consider that the Qur'an holds that force is an acceptable last resort to preserve important institutions, including marriages and nations. Some scholars have accused some Muslims of trying to make the verse palatable to the West.

    "I am not apologetic about why the Qur'an says this," said Seyyed Hossein Nasr, an Islamic scholar who teaches at George Washington University. The Bible, he noted, addresses stoning people to death.

    Sayyid Qutb, an Egyptian whose writings underpin the extremism of groups like Al Qaeda, published extensive commentaries about the Qur'an before he was hanged in 1966.

    Islamic tradition states that Muhammad never hit his 11 wives, and Qutb considered a man striking his wife as the last measure to save a marriage.

    He cited the prophet's horror at the practice by quoting one of his sayings: "Do not beat your wife like you beat your camel, for you will be flogging her early in the day and taking her to bed at night."

    The verse 4:34, with its three-step program, is often called a reform over the violent practices of seventh-century Arabia, when the Qur'an was formulated. The verse was not a license for battery, scholars say, with other interpretations defining the heaviest instrument a man might employ as a twig commonly used as a toothbrush.

    Sheik Ali Gomaa, the Islamic scholar who serves as Egypt's grand mufti, or senior Islamic cleric, said Qur'anic verses must be viewed through the prism of the era.

    The advice "is always broad in order to be relevant to different cultures and in different times," he said through a spokesman in an e-mail message. "In our modern context, hitting one's wife is totally inappropriate, as society deems it hateful and it will only serve to sow more discord."

    A caller on a television program in Egypt recently asked the mufti if he should stop sleeping with his wife if she were causing discord, the spokesman said. The mufti replied that the measures in the verse were meant to bring harmony, not to exact revenge.

    More liberal commentators, particularly women, say the usual interpretation reflects the patriarchal practices of the Arabian Peninsula.

    This school holds that medieval traditions have become attached to the sacred texts like barnacles and need to be scraped off. Some Saudi women have been trying to do this by emphasizing the public role played by Aisha, one of the prophet's wives, while the Asma Society, an Islamic cultural and educational organization, gathered Muslim women from around the world in New York last autumn to explore the establishment of a female council to interpret Islamic law.

    Some analysts hold that the verse cannot be rendered meaningfully into English because it reflects social and legal practices of Muhammad's time.

    "The whole idea is not to punish her," said Ingrid Mattson, an expert in early Islamic history at the Hartford Seminary in Connecticut and the first woman president of the Islamic Society of North America. "It is like a fear of sexual impropriety, that the husband takes these steps to try to bring their relationship to where it is supposed to be. I think it is a physical gesture of displeasure."


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    "Do not beat your wife like you beat your camel, for you will be flogging her early in the day and taking her to bed at night."

    Wow, that's like sooo reassuring. Says it all about Qutb

    Anyway, on the main topic Al-K, as someone who's a linguist of some talent, what do you reckon is the correct translation?



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    • #3
      Once more the moslims mess it again when looking for truth, they try to interpret Coran, THE QUESTION IS NOT HALLAL OR HARAM , ITS JUST OR INJUST...

      DO ANY MOSLEM WANT HIS MOTHER TO BE BEATEN?
      DO ANY MOSLEM WANT HIS SISTER TO BE BEATEN?
      IS IT RIGHT FOR ANY MOSLEM TO SEE HIS DAUGHTER BEATEN TO DEATH?
      IS IT RIGHT FOR MOSLEM TO SHOW HIS MUSCLE ON A POOR WEAK WOMEN?

      I DONT CARE WHAT IS WRITTEN, MY LOGIC SAY NO, NO AND 1000`t NO`s TO ALL THE QUESTIONS...
      A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
      By: George Bernard Shaw

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      • #4
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        I read about this ages ago, and in my opinion, it's a bit of a pathetic way to try to distort translations to suit ones needs and desires.

        Arabic is not her first language and it shows! All is needed from her is to construct two sentences with the verb daraba. One to convey the meaning of hitting, and the other the meaning of going away. The difference will then be strongly apparent.

        I strongly disapprove of the cowardly behaviour of hitting or harming any female whatsoever (or anyone or any living thing for that matter, except of course in obvious situations such as self-defence), but, what happened to grave transgression, last resort and the Hadeeth about a tap with the siwak? We might not see it sometimes but there is wisdom and a greater good behind everything, even the seemingly bad.

        And Fortunato you're right, it is about being just, because as you know injustice is haram

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FORTUNATO View Post
          Once more the moslims mess it again when looking for truth, they try to interpret Coran, THE QUESTION IS NOT HALLAL OR HARAM , ITS JUST OR INJUST...

          DO ANY MOSLEM WANT HIS MOTHER TO BE BEATEN?
          DO ANY MOSLEM WANT HIS SISTER TO BE BEATEN?
          IS IT RIGHT FOR ANY MOSLEM TO SEE HIS DAUGHTER BEATEN TO DEATH?
          IS IT RIGHT FOR MOSLEM TO SHOW HIS MUSCLE ON A POOR WEAK WOMEN?

          I DONT CARE WHAT IS WRITTEN, MY LOGIC SAY NO, NO AND 1000`t NO`s TO ALL THE QUESTIONS...
          I couldn't agree more. Regardless of the religion, beating women is wrong. Full stop, no debate, no grey areas, no middle ground.



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          • #6
            Originally posted by FORTUNATO View Post
            Once more the moslims mess it again when looking for truth, they try to interpret Coran, THE QUESTION IS NOT HALLAL OR HARAM , ITS JUST OR INJUST...

            DO ANY MOSLEM WANT HIS MOTHER TO BE BEATEN?
            DO ANY MOSLEM WANT HIS SISTER TO BE BEATEN?
            IS IT RIGHT FOR ANY MOSLEM TO SEE HIS DAUGHTER BEATEN TO DEATH?
            IS IT RIGHT FOR MOSLEM TO SHOW HIS MUSCLE ON A POOR WEAK WOMEN?

            I DONT CARE WHAT IS WRITTEN, MY LOGIC SAY NO, NO AND 1000`t NO`s TO ALL THE QUESTIONS...

            I agree a 100% and anyone who has seen the siwak knows it really does not hurt more likely to tickle . but like furtunato said , No full stop . the prophet was known for not hitting any of this wives but very gentle , very loving and very protective .he disapproved of violence towards wives . he loved his mother and when asked whose company do you prefer , he said my mother three times , and he insiste that paradise was underneath the feet of a mother , so if you cared about paradise all you had to do is care and be loving and respectful to your mother .

            Quran : Consort with them in kindness,(wives) for if you hate them it may happen that you hate a thing wherein Allah hath placed much good. (Quran 4: 19)
            Friendship

            [60:8] GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable.

            [60:9] GOD enjoins you only from befriending those who fight you because of religion, evict you from your homes, and band together with others to banish you. You shall not befriend them. Those who befriend them are the transgressors

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            • #7
              indeed, whatever translation, people need their own logica to understand

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