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    SALAM TO EVERY ONE,I HAVE READ SOME OF WHAT AMIR WROTE AND THIS MESSAGE IS FOR HIM.
    LETS TAKE THINGS MORE SERIOUSLY, I RESPECT WHAT U SAID JUST BECAUSE U R A HUMAN BUT U SHOULD RESPECT WHAT I SAY CAUSE I AM A HUMAN TOO, I AM A MUSLIM LIVING IN LONDON AND I JUST WANT TO ASK U, CAN U LOOK ARROUND U AND TELL ME HOW DOE THE WORLD EXIST, WHOS CAUSED THE BIG BANG, WHO CREAted HUMANS, MY ANSWER TO ALL THIS QUESTIONS IS GOD, I WILL BE
    GREATFULL TO SEE UR ANSWER AND IF IT SOUND MORE SENSIBLE THAN MY ONE THEN I WILL BELIEVE IN WHAT U BELIEVE IN, ITS REALLY GETTING SERIOUS NOW, I CANT EXPLAIN MANY THINGS IN LIFE BUT I USE THE WORD GOD TO ANSWER ALL MY QUESTIONS. NO ONE SAW GOD BUT IF U GOT SOMEONE TO BE THE ANSWER OF all the COMPLICATED QUESTIONS THEN UR LIFE WILL BE MUCH EASIER, FORGET ABOUT MUSLIMS, ABUT FIS AND THINK OF WHAT I TOLD U
    WITH ALL MY RESPECT
    A MUSLIM WOMAN
    MERIEM....
    bye

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    hello amir:
    Ok, i agree with all u said but u still did not give an answer to who caused the big bang? i believe its god, u dont believe in god, so what caused it, i do physics yeah and we still do not have an answer to that question and that what someone is trying to prove in order to say that god does not exist, how can u say that when u dont have the prove either, u talked a lot about common sense but u r not using it now ( sorry 4 being rude), but ur point is not clear to me and i am not blind either...
    with all the respect
    Meriem
    bye

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    • #3
      Amir:
      ur point is not clear, i am glad that i am talking to someone who knows something about physics . all u said about black holes is correct, but we still need the "fist cause" (what causes the universe) and u did not answer this question , come on boy, explain ur point , i might agree with it !!! who knows...
      respect
      meriem
      bye

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      • #4
        What a lot of BULL. Since when did you graduate from Harvard?? Without having to complicate you life too much, answer this simple question first.

        "For every action there is a reaction". so how did the big bang happen?, if it was a big bang at all since scientists get more confused as they try to find out more. The above is a simple Physics rule which should be evident even to you. And where in the Islamic religion at least (I can't vouch for other religions), did you read that there is only one Universe?? as far as my small mind (but bigger than yours) can tell, the Quran mentions 7 skies and 7 earths, go figure this out if you can. Nuclear collapse and fusion happen on a daily basis on the Sun, it may be a novelty to the human brain but on the sun, it had to be generated by an action in the first place.
        What/who is that action and for what purpose??

        Here ends lesson 2.

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        • #5
          Dear courious:
          Do I know from somewhere?
          Are you from the West coast,by any chance?
          If you are,then it's a small world in deed!

          Frankythecourious.

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          • #6
            Dear Franky,

            I wish I was. But you're right, it is a small world indeed.

            Salam.

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            • #7
              Curious?franky, thats not our topic!!
              love an respect

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              • #8
                Mimi,

                Sorry we diverged. Why have you still not answered my first reply in the "how can I help Islam" discussion thread??

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                • #9
                  curious :
                  well i did
                  salam
                  love an respect

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                  • #10
                    Salam to all
                    i find the thinking of this universe without "god" to be very frightning.
                    no god means we human beings are lost in this universe.
                    so what is the point of living and diying? what is the point of rich and poor? what is the point of suffering and geting patient? what is the point of loving and marrying? what is the point of learning? what is the point of working? what is the point of getting children, have a mother, have a father, have brothers and sisters, have a wife, have a husband?.
                    without god, we are all lost,
                    without god, and no hereafter, i don't accept to live in poor conditions, because there is no point, why do i have to be poor.
                    without god, and no hereafter, after our death, where are your children, where is your mother, where is your father, where is your husband, where is your wife, where are your loved ones? ... it is a lost .. oh god .. it is so painful!
                    without god, why do you go and work for 8 hours, to get this pennies, (Some football players get a 50000 pound a week the equivalent of you working all your life), so what is the point .. it is a lost .. oh god .. i can't imagine that.
                    Imagine an earthquake which does not stop
                    Imagine a 60 degrees temperature for the hall year.
                    Imagine -60 degree
                    Imagine a strong wind all the time
                    imaging you have a touthache all your life (i am sure you will kill the dentist).

                    Event if i am an atheist, i find all this facts telling me that the existence of god is a necessity, a must, there is no other option but a lost, a horror,
                    i can not imagine that, it is very strong, it is a lost,
                    As a human being (of course using the toilet) i need justice, i need peace, i need my wrights, i need safety, i need love, i need rest of mind, i need tranquility, i need affection ... all that are god gifts ..
                    witout god there is nothing but, illusion, panique, hatred, dark hearths, blind eyes, lost minds ...
                    Surely no one has seen his mind, it does not mean that it does not exist.
                    Surely no one has seen his hearth, it does not mean that it does not exist.


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                    • #11
                      Answers, answers...

                      One characteristique of the void is that it contracts.
                      One characteristic of contraction is explosion.
                      One characteristique of explosion is production of energy.
                      One characteristic of energy is that it is an invisible form of matter.

                      So, from nothing, void, the above sequence is concevable.

                      Now, for those who need a CREATOR to any thing, you entrappe yourself in that no matter how far you go, you will always be challenged with the creator of the creator you mau have settle for. But if you do not settle for one, you will end up in a infinite set of jumps from one imaginary/hypothetical creator to another. At the end you end up with more jumps via void, than gods. The principles aboveIbeginning) are not only demonstrated, but also observed and confirmed and successfuly reconstructed. So void is the root, and god is but an abstract creation of humans to satisfy all languages and derived cultures that do not generate concepts of questions with UNKNOWN answers.
                      Not kowing does not necessarily imply none existance.
                      Furthermore the need for a greater entity than one's mind is a symptome of fear. Fear comes from internal validation of the existence of a danger. Danger designates images and ideas of pain. Religions rely on that those images to carry out their scare tactics, with the notions of heaven and hell. Christians went as far as accepting the return from the dead of Jesus. Moslims accept at its face value the visit of a jenoun to Mohamed. When one has experienced violence in youth, the pain that is recorded in memory is a reference of a real thing which gets amplified with imagination. It is the only imagination acceptale to religion people. and in 2003, such terrorism should be stopped !

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