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  • Is it haram being gay??

    Can anyone plese tell whether it is haram being gay or not??
    I know a muslim girl who is gay, and she says that it is not haram..
    If any of you guys know the answer please tell what sura that tells something about it.
    I want to help my friend to do the right thing, but I personally don't think it is haram - dont know really
    Merci d'avance

  • #2

    Of course it is HARAM. Do you know the story of prophet Lot and his people? Do you know that Allah destroyed his people because they were gays (men/men). Would not you think that this applies to women too? Islam rules are for men and women alike.
    My advice to this person is desist and the best thing to do, to avoid such un-natural acts, is to get married if she can or perform fasting as the prophet Mohamed (pbh) said.

    [Edited by KI on 19th April 2001 at 22:24]


    • #3
      Ms. Satan,
      We, muslims will not take any advices from somebody who is hostile to, Allah the One God, his prophet Mohamed (pbh) and our creed. Islam is the only religion that does not recognise same sex marriages. As it is the case since day one Judaism and christianity are being changed to accommodate same sex marriages and some of their priests are officiating at these ceremonies.
      This is very interesting indeed to give us a glimpse on how these religions change for the conveniece and for keeping the DONATIONS coming to churches and synagogues.

      Ms. Satan,
      Thank you for your post of things that should not be done by any human being due to the fact that Islam is for universality. Again this posts is a proof of your lies, you have claimed in one of your lies previously that muslims studies wichcraft at their religious institutions and in your post it is clearly indicated that it is one of the majore sins....etc.
      As you mentioned, indeed Allah forgives everything EXCEPT associating partners with Him and that is what you are doing. Prepare yourself for the hereafter.

      We muslims are by far better that what you are trying to portray with your sick reflections. We are patients and you should be because the promise of Allah is coming and rest ASSURED it is coming rather sooner than later.

      Why are lying so much about Islam?


      • #4
        to non.....

        mr nony...write the verses of QURA'N CORRECT ...U read without understand....

        48 God forgiveth not that partners should be set up with him; but he forgiveth anything else, to whom he pleaseth; to set up partners with God is to devise a sin most heinous indeed.

        49 Last thou not turned thy vision to those who claim sanctity for themselves? nay but God doth sactify whom he pleaseth. but never will they fail to receive justice in the least little thing.

        50 Behold how they invent a lie against God but that by itself is a manifest sin

        51 Last thou not turned thy vision to those who were given a portion of the book? they believe in sorcery and evil, and say to the unbelievers that they are better guided in the (right) way than the believers

        -52 They are (men) whom God had cursed: and those whom God hath cursed, thou wilt find, have no one to help.

        53 Have they a share in dominion or power? behold, they give not a farthing to their fellow men?

        54 Or do they envy mankind for what God hath given them of his bounty? but we had already given the people of Abraham the book and wisdom, and conferred upon them a great kingdom.

        55 Some of them believed and some of them averted their faces from him: and enough is hell for a burning fire.

        56 Those who reject our signs, we shall soon cast into the fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, we shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for God is exalted in power, wise.

        57 But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, we shall soon admit to gardens, with rivers flowing beneath, their eternal home: therein shall they have companions pure and holy: we shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening.

        58 God doth command you to render back your trusts to those to whom they are due; and when ye judge between man and man, that ye judge with justice: verily how excellent is the teaching which he giveth you for God is he who heareth and seeth all things.

        59 O ye who believe obey God, and obey the apostle, and those charged with authority among you. if ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to God and his apostle, if ye do believe in God and the last day: that is best, and most suitable for final determination.

        -60 Fast thou not turned thy vision to those who declare that they believe in the revelations that have come to thee and to those before thee? their (real) wish is to resort together for judgment (in their disputes) to the evil one, though they were ordered to reject him but Satan's wish is to lead them astray far away (from the right).

        61 When it is said to them: come to what God hath revealed and to the apostle; thou seest the hypocrites avert their faces from thee in disgust.

        62 How then, when they are sized by misfortune, because of the deeds which their hands have sent forth? then they come to thee, swearing by God: we meant no more than good will and conciliation

        63 Those men, God knows what is in their hearts; so keep clear of them, but admonish them, and speak to them a word to reach their very souls.

        64 We sent not an apostle, but to be obeyed, in accordance with the will of God if they had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come unto thee and asked God's forgiveness, and the apostle had asked forgiveness for them, they have found God indeed oft returning most merciful.

        65 But no, by the Lord, they can have no (real) faith, until they make thee judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against thy decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction.

        -66 If we had ordered them to sacrifice their lives or to leave their homes, very few of them would have done it: but if they had done what they were (actually) told, it would have been best for them, and would have gone farthest to strengthen their (faith)

        67 And we should then have given them from our presence a great reward;

        68 And we should have shown them the straight way.

        69 All who obey God and the apostle are in the company of those on whom is the grace of God, of the prophets (who teach), the sincere (lovers of truth), the witnesses (who testify), and the righteous (who do good): ah what a beautiful fellowship

        70 Such is the bounty from God: and sufficient is it that God knoweth all.

        71 Ye who believe take your precautions, and either go forth in parties or go forth all together.

        72 There are certainly among you men who would tarry behind: if a misfortune befalls you, they say: God did favour us in that we were not present among them.

        73 But if good fortune comes to you from God, they would be sure to say as if there had never been ties of affection between you and them oh i wish i had been with them; a fine thing should i then have made of it

        74 Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. to him who fighteth in the cause of God, whether he is slain or gets victory soon shall we give him a reward of great (value).

        -75 And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill treated (and oppressed)? whose cry is: our Lord rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help

        76 Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil: so fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan

        77 Fast thou not turned thy vision to those who were told to hold back their hands (from fight) but establish regular prayers and spend in regular charity? when (at length) the order for fighting was issued to them, behold a section of them feared men as or even more than they should have feared God: they said: our Lord why hast thou ordered us to fight? wouldst thou not grant us respite to our (natural) term, near (enough)? say: short is the enjoyment of this world: the hereafter is the best for those who do right: never will ye be dealt with unjustly in the very least

        78 Wherever ye are, death will find you out, even if ye are in towers built up strong and high if some good befalls them, they say, this is from God; but if evil, they say, this is from thee (O prophet). say: all things are from God. but what hath come to these people, that they fail to understand a single fact?

        79 Whatever good, (O man) happens to thee, is from God; but whatever evil happens to thee, is from thy (own) soul. and we have sent thee as an apostle to (instruct) mankind. and enough is God for a witness.

        -80 He who obeys the apostle, obeys God: but if any turn away, we have not sent thee to watch over their (evil deeds).

        81 They have obedience on their lips; but when they leave thee, a section of them meditate all night on things very different from what thou tellest them. but God records their nightly (plots): so keep clear of them, and put thy trust God, and enough is God.

        82 Do they not consider the Quran (with care)? had it been from other than God, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy.

        83 When there comes to them some matter touching (public) safety or fear, they divulge it. if they had only referred it to the apostle, or to those charged with authority among them, the proper investigators would have tested it from them (direct). were it no for the grace and mercy of God unto you, all but a few of you would have fallen into the clutches of Satan.

        84 Then fight in God's cause thou are held responsible only for thyself and rouse the believers. it may be that God will restrain the fury of the unbelievers; for God is the strongest in might and in punishment.

        85 Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: and whoever recommends and helps an evil cause, shares in its burden: and God hath power over all things.

        86 When a (courteous) greeting is offered you, meet it with a greeting still more courteous, or (at least) of equal courtesy. God takes careful account of all things.

        -87 God there is no God but he: of a surety he will gather you together against the day of judgment, about which there is no doubt. and whose word can be truer than God's?

        88 Why should ye be divided into two parties about the hypocrites? God hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. would ye guide those whom God hath thrown out of the way? for those whom God hath thrown out of the way, never shalt thou find the way.

        89 They but wish that ye should reject faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): but take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of God (from what is forbidden). but if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;

        90 Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. if God had pleased, he could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, them God hath opened no way for you (to war against them).

        91 Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto: if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them: in their case we have provided you with a clear argument against them.

        -92 Never should a believer kill a believer; but (if it so happens) by mistake, (compensation is due): if one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family, unless they remit it freely. if the deceased belonged to a people at war with you, and he was a believer, the freing of a believing slave (is enough). if he belonged to a people with whom ye have a treaty of mutual alliance, compensation should be paid to his family, and a believing slave be freed. for those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance to God: for God hath all knowledge and all wisdom.

        93 If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is hell, to abide therein (for ever): and the wrath and the curse of God are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him.

        94 O ye who believe when ye go abroad in the cause of God, investigate carefully, and say not to any one who offers you a saluatation: thou art none of a believer coveting the perishable goods of this life: with God are profits and spoils abundant. even thus were ye yourselves before, till God conferred on you his favours: therefore carefully investigate. for God is well aware of all that ye do.

        -95 Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of God with their goods and their persons. God hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). unto all (in faith) hath God promised good: but those who strive and fight hath he distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,

        96 Ranks specially bestowed by him and forgiveness and mercy. for God is oft forgiving, most merciful.

        97 When angels take the souls of those who die in sin against their souls, they say: in what (plight) were ye? they reply: weak and oppressed were we in the earth. they say: was not the earth of God spacious enough for you to move yourselves away (from evil)? such men will find their abode in hell, what an evil refuge

        98 Except those who are (really) weak and oppressed men, women, and children who have no means in their power nor (a guide post) to direct their way.

        99 For these, there is hope that God will forgive: for God doth blot out (sins) and forgive again and again.

        100 He who for sakes his home in the cause of God, finds in the earth many a refuge, wide and spacious: should he die as a refugee from home for God and his apostle, his reward becomes due and sure with God: and God is oft forgiving, most merciful.

        101 When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the unbelievers may attack you: for the unbelievers are unto you open enemies.

        -102 When thou (O apostle) art with them, and standest to lead them in prayer, let one party of them stand up (in prayer) with thee, taking their arms with them: when they finish their prostrations, let them take their position in the rear. and let the other party come up which hath not yet prayed and let them pray with thee, taking all precautions, and bearing arms: the unbelievers wish, if ye were negligent of your arms and your baggage, to assault you in a single rush. but there is no blame on you if ye put away your arms because of the inconvenience of rain or because ye are ill; but take (every) precaution for yourselves. for the unbelievers God hath prepared a humiliating punishment.

        103 When ye pass (congregational) prayers, celebrate God's praises, standing, sitting down, or lying down on your sides; but when ye are free from danger, set up regular prayers: for such prayers are enjoined on believers at stated times.

        104 And slacken not in following up the enemy: if ye are suffering hardships, they are suffering similar hardships; but ye have hope from God, while they have none. and God is full of knowledge and wisdom.

        105 We have sent down to thee the book in truth, that thou mightest judge between men, as guided by God: so be not (used) as an advocate by those who betray their trust;

        -106 But seek the forgiveness of God; for God is oft forgiving, most merciful.

        107 Contend not on behalf of such as betray their own souls; for God loveth not one given to perfidy and crime;

        108 They may hide (their crimes) from men, but they cannot hide (them) from God, seeing that he is in their midst when they plot by night, in words that he cannot approve: and God doth compass round all that they do.

        109 Ah these are the sort of men on whose behalf ye may contend in this world; but who will contend with God on their behalf on the day of judgment, or who will carry their affairs through?

        110 If any one does evil or wrongs his own soul but afterwards seeks God's forgiveness, he will find God oft forgiving, most merciful.

        111 And if any one earns sin, he earns it against his own soul: for God is full of knowledge and wisdom.

        112 But if any one earns a fault or a sin and throws it on to one that is innocent, he carries (on himself) (both) a falsehood and a flagrant sin.

        113 But for the grace of God to thee and his mercy, a party of them would certainly have plotted to lead thee astray. but (in fact) they will only lead their own souls astray, and to thee they can do no harm in the least. for God hath sent down to thee the book and wisdom and taught thee what thou knewest not (before): and great is the grace of God unto thee.

        -114 In most of their secret talks there is no good: but if one exhorts to a deed of charity or justice or conciliation between men, (secrecy is permissible): to him who does this, seeking the good pleasure of God, we shall soon give a reward of the highest (value).

        115 If anyone contends with the apostle even after guidance has been plainly conveyed to him, and follows a path other than that becoming to men of faith, we shall leave him in the path he has chosen, and land him in hell, what an evil refuge

        116 God forgiveth not (the sin of) joining other gods with him; but he forgiveth whom he pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with God, hath strayed far, far away (from the right).

        117 (the pagans), leaving him, call but upon female deities: they call but upon Satan the persistent rebel

        118 God did curse him, but he said: i will take of thy servants a portion marked off;

        119 I will mislead them, and i will create in them false desires; i will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and to deface the (fair) nature created by God. whoever, forsaking God, takes Satan for a friend, hath of a surety suffered a loss that is manifest.

        120 Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but Satan's promises are nothing but deception.

        121 They (his dupes) will have their dwelling in hell, and from it they will find no way of escape.

        ============================================================ QURA'N 4/48-121...
        try non,,,, to understand the QURA'N FIRST ...did u sleep will or stil u enter the room and get out of it ?? did u record every thing ..... byby...


        • #5
          Well well well,
          what do you know, it's Jepetto and his toy Pinochio. They're the wrong people to ask about being gay!


          • #6
            Lesbianism and being gay is not natural. Females are meant to be with males and vice versa. That's the way nature and god intended matter what religion. If it were natural, then god would have sent Adam and John or Eve and Eva...males would be able to reproduce with another male, and females with other females. But the point is, you cannot. Who knows? If we have homosexuality now, we'll have men with donkeys tomorrow!

            I don't disrespect homosexuals, they are human like any other. In fact I like the way gay men dress, very clean and tidy They have just come into believing something that may be misleading.

            There is no such thing as is just something that gets into your head, and you begin to believe it. Sort of like Annorexia and Bullemia...

            Hope this helps you,



            • #7
              Hey Pinochio,
              Can you honestly fully comprehend the nature of homosexuality? Can you really accept them if one of them started hitting on you, would you still be so open to their true nature?


              • #8
                Ms. Satan,
                This is exactly why you are so disillusioned in your life. You really like to spread mischief as a way of life, hey, may be I am right about your homosexual tendenacies. Humans were created to POPULATE the earth and I wonder how a woman/woman or man/man relationship can achieve that. You are so pathetic in all your walks of life.


                • #9
                  noneson remarks are good for somebody who believes that there is only life and there is nothing after life. Muslims do believe that whatever we do, we must answer for it later on. You are free to do whatever you feel like it in this life and just remember that NO One is eternal and sooner or later you will have to answer for your actions.


                  • #10
                    Ms. Satan with pink ribbon on her forehead,

                    I am sure you are enjoying to the fullest your tendencies that you are openly deffending in this forum.

                    The magic of Islam: VIRTUE.

                    Your christian churches and Jewish synagogues do not have virtue and are unable to understand it because they would like to keep their GOATS coming and giving money.
                    Islam is the true guidance to humanity from Allah that gives you the freedom to choose right from wrong and consequently a reward or punishment.

                    What you do not understand is that Islam does not guarantee heaven for every muslim. Islam makes of an individual a responsible one who has to earn his/her rewards.



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