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  • #91
    i have never say algeria don'y have violence,do not put words into my mouth.and i was not evasive by talking about english hooligans.the subject is violence therefore hooliganism is violence.and do not compare english / algerian.the english cause deaths and stabbings in almost EVERY COUNTRY IN EUROPE(since you are good with details carry on been a gentlemen and tell us the NUMBERS).
    and no i don't ignore the facts that algerian women get battered.what make me sick is when a girl is saying that her algerian boyfriend went out(or try to) with her best friend but JESUS CHRIST that happened every minute everywhere else and nobody interefered to tell her that.make me sick..
    to felicity ELHAMDOULILAH my dad was a man of culture in the movies business and never lifted his hand towards my mum and that reflected on all his children thank god and to put it politely i don't give a toss that you are miss or mississ.i call you miss because it's just an old habit of mine.sorry.
    j'en doute fort,en etalant notre linge sale,que tu sois algerien.une simple question??t'es pas marocain???

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    • #92
      Originally posted by silkcut View Post

      i have never say algeria don'y have violence,do not put words into my mouth.and i was not evasive by talking about english hooligans.the subject is violence therefore hooliganism is violence.and do not compare english / algerian.the english cause deaths and stabbings in almost EVERY COUNTRY IN EUROPE(since you are good with details carry on been a gentlemen and tell us the NUMBERS).
      and no i don't ignore the facts that algerian women get battered.what make me sick is when a girl is saying that her algerian boyfriend went out(or try to) with her best friend but JESUS CHRIST that happened every minute everywhere else and nobody interefered to tell her that.make me sick..
      to felicity ELHAMDOULILAH my dad was a man of culture in the movies business and never lifted his hand towards my mum and that reflected on all his children thank god and to put it politely i don't give a toss that you are miss or mississ.i call you miss because it's just an old habit of mine.sorry.
      j'en doute fort,en etalant notre linge sale,que tu sois algerien.une simple question??t'es pas marocain???
      More ducking and diving, eh? yalla stick to the point or wander off sulking.

      Dirty laundry? What do you think this site is about? Disney Algeria? Where all the men are perfect, and do no wrong? Not real Algeria, where recent research shows over 60% of Algerian women report violence within the marriage?

      Your pathetic question about 'am I Moroccan?' is a joke. I don't belong to the school of self-deception that says Algerian men can do no wrong, especially in light of some of the shameful, disgusting, criminal, cowardly behavior by some banned members of this site. And clearly you have a problem in accepting evidence produced by Algerians. If you want to dismiss it as Moroccan propaganda, or think that social problems in Algeria should not be discussed, that says a lot.

      Bringing in constant references to male violence elsewhere is irrelevant. Totally irrelevant. We all know that abuse of women is a global issue. It is evasive to continually fail to address behaviour that is clearly engaged in by substantial numbers of Algerians and instead start pointing fingers around the world. Does that make Algerian abuse of Algériennes any less of a problem?

      There is little point in a discussion with someone who stoops to racist slurs and distractions, and fails completely to comprehend that information produced by Algerians and published in the public domain is not 'airing dirty laundry' - it is facing reality. The reality that Algerians have to live with every day in Algeria.

      A final thought, we are still in the month of Ramadan, and throwing around the name of Isa (pbuh) as you have done is not very respectful.

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      • #93
        who is ducking and diving?????i think i answered all the questions.
        i was not THROWING the name of jesus,it is just an expression of frustration and you KNOW it,i could say some others synonymous words but I DON'T belong to that SCHOOL.
        in my last post TWICE i admitted THAT THERE IS VIOLENCE IN ALGERIA but you choose to ignore that for some cantankerous argument.
        i wish you good luck with your forum and as
        charles aznavour says"il faut savoir quitter la table lorsque le repas est deservi"

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        • #94
          If we follow your logic, every Algerian government official, every Algerian journalist, every Algerian academic, every Algerian NGO worker, every Algerian police officer, every Algerian doctor, every Algerian social worker, etc., who conducts research on, writes about, publishes or otherwise produces material on social problems in Algeria.....is a Moroccan. And reality becomes 'dirty laundry', the social conditions in Algeria become 'something not to be discussed in public', the Algerian people become 'people to be kept in the dark' and facts established by Algerians about Algerians for Algerians - which are read by, discussed by, and perfectly understood by Algerians - become material for censorship.

          Bon appetit.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by silkcut View Post
            with all my respects whoever you are,i am not snooping around the women's corner it just happened that i saw a headline titled "HORROR STORIES ABOUT ALGERIAN MEN". i ask you an honest question,could you give me an honest answer? if you see a headline like"HORROR STORIES ABOUT ENGLISH (or scot if you are scottich ,german if you german etc..) WOMEN" would n't you look into it (i would n't use the word snoop)??

            if your answer is humble then i agree with you when you said "i am sick and tired of people generalising about people"

            let's not be evasive am i wrong to say that the higest divorce rate in the world is in england??? and there are thousands of refuge homes for battered women.
            am i wrong to say that in france in 2008 over 2000 women have been killed by their partner???
            it is all right for you to generalise about us algerians but when someone tell FACTS about you, you go berserk. it's not fair.
            i will give you my word that i will not came back to this thread as it is for ladies only. my apologies.
            You say "whoever you are" as though I have no right to be here. All ladies are welcome to comment and have a look in women's corner.

            My honest answer to your question is no I wouldn't if it was in men's corner as I would never have seen it in the first place as I should never have been looking around in that forum.

            Your comments to the divorce rate etc just go to make my point even stronger. You are generalising about French and English now. If it is a fact or not is not my point. For example does it mean because of a high divorce rate (fate) everyone in the UK is divorced?!?!?!? I don't think so.

            By the way please point out where I generalised about or said it was right to generalise about Algerians?

            I was just saying people should be treated as individuals

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            • #96
              Love from your friends and family. Everyone needs not to be totally dependent on their partner only, you need a network. I think you totally misunderstood me SilkCut. Also not once did I say that Algerian men were bad.....I think you jumped the gun completely. Now you have 3 parking tickets.

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              • #97
                Isn't it Time to Scrap this Thread?

                I am surprised...

                ... that this thread has been going on (and off) for over three years. Perhaps we all know why.

                It allows disgruntled, used and abused female partners with a sad story to tell the whole world (the Internet!) about some scoundrels they once dated or lived with-who happen to be male Algerians.

                It also allows genuinely honest, decent Algerian men to voice their outrage at the thought of being swept with the same brush, stereotyped and demonised.

                The problem is, even if you're not guilty [and most of us aren't], you still feel the effects that such stories have in creating and strengthening negative stereotypes of Algerian men. Frankly, it hurts...

                Think of the associations that immediately come to the mind of many ordinary Westerners when they hear the words ''Muslim'' and ''Arab'' especially after 9/11. What are people supposed to think of ''Algerian men'' after reading these stories?

                We all have good and bad stories to tell about men and women of all nationalities and backgrounds. So, please STOP IT. Don't make us look worse than we really are. We are people, a cluster of individuals, not clones...

                Finally, if I may say this: Every serious thread on this forum has a purpose, mostly to inform, and maybe to educate and entertain. What is the purpose of this thread?

                What is the message it is trying to convey??

                Allah yahdeekum


                B2MR

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by BACK2MYROOTS View Post

                  What is the purpose of this thread?
                  It was added following several requests from........ Algerian women

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                  • #99
                    ive been dumped

                    Hi just thought i'd share my story with everyone.

                    married 3 years to algerian guy, to begin with he with the ultimate gentleman, he treated me like a queen. of course we had our ups and downs but nothing serious.. we married and he came to the uk, and ever since then everything has been great, really, really great...this year he got his permanent visa to stay in the UK, and now things are going wrong, 2 weeks ago out of the blue he started to received letters from france, when i asked about them, he said they are from a 'friend' an old girlfriend, since then we have phone calls where people hang up, texting, just like a teenager. i am supposed to accept this 'friend' but i cant i cant have 3 people in my marriage..it doesn't work..he now wants a second wife, but still wants to stay with me..i can't accept this. I am now having to sell my house, to move on. I think all he ever wanted was the visa to stay here, he never wanted me.. either that or it's a serious mid life crisis..i will never understand why he did this to me.

                    please be careful, because yes the majority are sincere men, but as anywhere there are always a few that are not...

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                    • He won't get away with it!

                      I cannot address you as "dumped",
                      dear friend

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                      I am SO sorry to hear your story. There are bad apples among us, there's no denying that.


                      First of all, dear friend, you should 'dump' the name "dumped". You made a mistake, or you were a bit naive or taken advantage of. It does not make you 'dumped trash'!! You still have your dignity and humanity. And, you can fight back and not let him get away with it.

                      If I were you, I would report him first thing tomorrow morning. Find out how you can do that and who to contact on the Net, or by contacting your local Citizen's Advice Bureau. Whatever you do, don't go wobbly in the knees whatever he says from now on. Get rid of him as mercilessly as vermin. He can only get worse in the future.

                      He's not even smart enough to know the New Rules of Citizenship [Find out about that]. Please, please, please report him. We do not want to be associated with people like him. He is a disgrace. Get him out of the house and get an injunction to stop him from coming anywhere close to you.

                      There are thousands of good people out there. You don't need him. Don't behave like you're desperate. Please be strong and learn from this experience , but do not blame ALL Algerian men. You have had the misfortune to meet the lowest of the lowest. Get him out of this country, you 'll do us all a favour !!!

                      Please follow my advice, and let us know the outcome.
                      May God/Allah be with you.

                      B2MR

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                      • even in Algeria you can only marry a second wife if the first wife signs off and agrees to it, so he could never legally do that... He may not be able to get citizenship, but I doubt they would take away his ILR, as its probably more problem for the UKBA than they feel its worth... but I agree with B2MR, that if you are sure you are correct about what he's doing, you really don't need to waste yourself on him. God will deal with him on judgement day.

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                        • Originally posted by BACK2MYROOTS View Post
                          I cannot address you as "dumped",
                          dear friend

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                          I am SO sorry to hear your story. There are bad apples among us, there's no denying that.


                          First of all, dear friend, you should 'dump' the name "dumped". You made a mistake, or you were a bit naive or taken advantage of. It does not make you 'dumped trash'!! You still have your dignity and humanity. And, you can fight back and not let him get away with it.

                          If I were you, I would report him first thing tomorrow morning. Find out how you can do that and who to contact on the Net, or by contacting your local Citizen's Advice Bureau. Whatever you do, don't go wobbly in the knees whatever he says from now on. Get rid of him as mercilessly as vermin. He can only get worse in the future.

                          He's not even smart enough to know the New Rules of Citizenship [Find out about that]. Please, please, please report him. We do not want to be associated with people like him. He is a disgrace. Get him out of the house and get an injunction to stop him from coming anywhere close to you.

                          There are thousands of good people out there. You don't need him. Don't behave like you're desperate. Please be strong and learn from this experience , but do not blame ALL Algerian men. You have had the misfortune to meet the lowest of the lowest. Get him out of this country, you 'll do us all a favour !!!

                          Please follow my advice, and let us know the outcome.
                          May God/Allah be with you.

                          B2MR

                          I agree with this posting!

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                          • thanks to everyone for all your support,...yep time has come to definitely learn and move on...

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                            • Originally posted by Tasha View Post
                              Can I ask who you are to shut anyone up? So by your last comment I guess you are a man? what are you doing snooping round the woman's corner? Also how do you know if algerian men are better in bed than "white men"? and as for better looking, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I am sick and tired of people generalising about people of different nationalities, religions etc. There are good and bad people all over the world no matter their background
                              Ahem there are white Algerians you know!! Sheesh............

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                              • Originally posted by silkcut View Post
                                i have never say algeria don'y have violence,do not put words into my mouth.and i was not evasive by talking about english hooligans.the subject is violence therefore hooliganism is violence.and do not compare english / algerian.the english cause deaths and stabbings in almost EVERY COUNTRY IN EUROPE(since you are good with details carry on been a gentlemen and tell us the NUMBERS).
                                and no i don't ignore the facts that algerian women get battered.what make me sick is when a girl is saying that her algerian boyfriend went out(or try to) with her best friend but JESUS CHRIST that happened every minute everywhere else and nobody interefered to tell her that.make me sick..
                                to felicity ELHAMDOULILAH my dad was a man of culture in the movies business and never lifted his hand towards my mum and that reflected on all his children thank god and to put it politely i don't give a toss that you are miss or mississ.i call you miss because it's just an old habit of mine.sorry.
                                j'en doute fort,en etalant notre linge sale,que tu sois algerien.une simple question??t'es pas marocain???
                                Silkcut darling, domestic violence is a big problem in Algeria, it just goes unspoken about......what a ridiculous thing to have an argument about....there is good and bad everywhere in the world, alhamdullilah your family are respectful that's all there is to say...

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